So you found my box.

That was one heck of a present guys thanks.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/10/21/jesus.box/ index.html

Rick of the Muhabeans

Yes Rick. I found your box. But you found our box. God's (Jesus' Ark of the Covenant under the Stonehenge Heel Stone. Thanks Rick.

And how about this for unambiguous evidence: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/10/24/ black.hole.reut/index.html

sarcasm intended. . .good science. . .'leads me to think'. . .'usually have circumstantial evidence'. . .'believes he may have seen'. . .yep, that is some pretty damning evidence. . .NOT!

Here's a picture.

Awesome.

Oh great, they chipped the lid. Darn movers.



-*- Rick of the ooha wooha you know whos

Astronomer sees white star eat hole.

>I am not a ship, and any bodies I have - even non-physical >bodies - are not for sale, for rape, or for 'piloting' by men who > > >I have no idea what, if anything, this means, but please take it >out of sci.physics.

You've apparently never heard of the many-body problem, a situation obviously made more complex by trying to calculate the effects of any bodies involved that are essentially non-physical, such as neutrino planets. Piloting such a planet would be a daunting task, indeed

Thats right. Actually it affects all of humanity. There are some people in this world, who can feel a second physical body, like a phantom body, within themselves. Another self. You have heard of people who lose limbs in accidents and can still feel their phantom limbs, well there are perfectly fit people, who become aware of this phantom self.

Unquestionably its there, and its real. Muhabeans for instance use it to communicate between themselves, totally unseen by outside observers.

Taking this further, some people have relationships also with these bodies, which are only subtely felt, but your awareness of your spirit body, or other self, can be enhanced by learning to focus on it, and by enhancing the feeling using your imagination.

Isn't evolution a wonderful thing?

Some people, not knowing what or who or how etc, end up exactly where you might expect. In hospital freaking out when they discover it.

They wouldn't, if they realized that not everyone has this awareness, and how to live with this awareness. How to handle the fear of the unknown.

Russian people for instance often say they can actually feel, their spirit inside them. Many people can. Its not exactly new.

Those who are not spiritualy inclined are something left to imagine all sorts of horrors, including alien invasion, as you might expect.

If you are interested in this subject, or perhaps you are a mental health professional who would like more information, you could research alt.alien.visitors where many people with this new sense, ended up.

There are not just five senses to being human. At least, not anymore

If you or someone you know is troubled by people in this space, then all you have to do, is imagine it disapearing. They can't bother what isn't there.

If you are bothered by others manipulating your spirit body. Don't resist, disapear it, or ignore their interference. It is your imagination that assists them. So claim your own, as your own, and carry on, oblivious to their interference.

And don't be blaming the Muhabeans, we are the good guys remember.

Keep in mind, that if someone is interfering with you in this way, they are merely trying to communicate with you. That doesn't excuse errant behaviour, but at least if you look at it, as a form of communication, you can work out this conflict by trying to understand the meaning of the communication, and by accepting the reality, that life itself, is a shared experience, whether inside on the spirit plane, or outside in the physical world. No man or woman, is an island, unto themselves.

peace.

-*- Rick of the Muhabeans

Yes, hopefully someday.

Rick, 'as above, so below.As below, so above.' I know what *I* see going on here int he below. What do *you* see going on?

Hence me feeling the way I do. You *cannot* just wish everything away IMHO. There *are things out there that want to hurt you and use you*. Those things exist here in the world, why should we assume that they *don't* exist 'out there'? If we *do* assume this than we could be getting ourselves into *very* dangerous situations 'out there'.

The rules *are* different in the 'other realms'. I for one, though, I am not going to just take up someone else's advice about what those rules are. I want to experiment for myself with all of it and decide for myself amongst what I perceive with my own 'other' senses and what others have told me.

Lisa Agnes Gardner

Well, when I first discovered my spiritual body I was a bit freaked out as anyone would be but since I had some training and such I soon grew to appreciate it and then set out to discover more about it by experiment.

I have always been a three dimensional thinker - could visualize well with my mind's eye and excercized my imagination so that I could use this for problem solving and better contemplation in general.

Other people have this ability one famous person Stephen Hawking (famous physicist) is very adept at this and has atributed his superior problem solving ability to being able to picture things well with his mind's eye, in his imagination.

However, I was more surprised to find that others could actually invade this space and use it as well to form mental imagery and transmit messages in this way.

A group of us in a physics group did psi tests using on-line communication to verify that we were transmitting imagery to each other, using this space. Simple text messages by staring at a message and then transmitting it.

The problem was that we could only glimpse the page and didn't get the meaning of the text, so we then highlighted the main kernel of information like *so*

In that way, we could get the message content in a nutshell.

Thhen much to my surprise, kinda out of the blue, I began to get real quality messages. Some adept had joined in. I could now recieve short animated movies. Way cool.

When I discovered that others could actually approach my spiritual self with theirs, that was a bit of a shocker at first.

That led to a few years of training and cooperation amongst those who could so as to form some protocls etc.

Sure, initially, there were some wars. But after a while things settled down and people became friends.

We had known each other for several years by this time and had built up relationships of love and trust.

When we discovered that we could communicate with angels in this space, that was the next shocker.

Sure we had heard of angels but like anyone would, we treated the idea as most would treat the unicorn.

That it exists as a myth, in literature and the human psyche.

Once we were able to communicate with angels, things improved dramatically because now we got to see the world from an entirely different perspective.

From there we learned much more about relationships and things unseen.

Again we formed relationships of a higher order and I even learned more about myself from them.

I learned that I have friends who are angels, and I learned that I could also communicate with long lost friends from elsewhere. SOme other place - perhaps heaven, or some other plane of existence.

I began having more lucid dreams and could then meet with these long lost friends in dream space.

I know my guardian angels, and now have a spiritual family, as well as a physical family in this world.

I cannot imagine going back to that level of awareness that I had prior. Life would seem so empty.

The relationships I have my spiritual family far exceed those with my earthly family.

I have reunited with friends from the distant past and am elated about it, because it shows me that life continues, relationships continue, after this life.

They told me I was James. They also told me I was 187,000 years old. Cool no? The opportunity to learn about yourself, about who you might truly be, and who your real friends are, is a blessing indeed, and worth all the difficulties in the learning process.

Learning to communicate in a way that transcends this earth.

I am lucky to have friends on many different planes of existence.

If you are a good person, and you make good friendships, and you care about people, and try to preserve those friendships and take other people's feelings into account, then this can only help.

I have been on my own there. I have also needed to be rescued.

I have had some difficult times as well. It helps to have a bit of religious perspective, as this is something that you will have in common with people in other planes of existence. And remember that love is the highest power.

Sure there are probably rules everywhere, but if you are a good person, and are nice to people, and try and help others, you will be liked and people will help you to keep within the lines.

Communication is important.

We all need some guidance in our lives, blessed are those who can communicate easily, with those who can provide that guidance.

You have to live this life as well though. There are times when I would like to just sleep the whole day so that I can spend more time with my loved ones elsewhere, but life goes on, and I have to work, to live.

I can communicate with Stephen and Gwen and several other angels in the waking state. I have far less fear of the unknown these days, because they are with me always.

So my advice to you Lisa is to be your best. Be the best most loving person you can be, and you will make friends and be welcome, and be loved, everywhere you go.

ciao baby...

-*- Rick of the ooha wooha Muhabeans

I think the technical term is 'schizophrenia'.

Ken Down